20260906 CDTL NRM D68 5 February 1974 68. Ghi chép về cuộc trao đổi giữa Ngoại trưởng Kissinger với các biên tập viên và phóng viên của Time Incorporated.
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d68
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Tài liệu 68
Quan hệ đối ngoại của Hoa Kỳ, 1969–1976, Tập
XVIII, Trung Quốc, 1973–1976
68. Ghi chú về cuộc trò chuyện giữa Ngoại
trưởng Kissinger và các biên tập viên và phóng viên của Time Incorporated.
Washington, ngày 5 tháng 2 năm 1974.
[Phần này lược bỏ những phát biểu của Kissinger về
việc nghe lén điện thoại, Ngoại trưởng Schlesinger và Liên Xô.]
Cách Tầu cộng ứng xử với chúng ta rất kỹ
lưỡng nhưng lại không mang lại tiến triển nào. Khi tôi đến đó vào tháng 11, tôi
đã phạm một sai lầm khá ngớ ngẩn khi bắt đầu bàn luận về Khổng Tử với
phía Tầu cộng. [Trang 458]
Họ tỏ ra rất hào hứng, dẫn đến một cuộc tranh luận kéo
dài nửa giờ đồng hồ mà Chu Ân Lai là người chủ đạo; ông lập luận rằng
tư tưởng Khổng Tử chẳng liên quan gì đến thế giới quan của họ cả. Giờ
đây, chúng ta có thể thấy vấn đề này vẫn còn tồn tại.
Tình hình Tầu cộng đang cực kỳ bất ổn. Đại
sứ của họ đã bị triệu hồi về nước từ nhiều tháng nay. Tuy nhiên, Mao Trạch
Đông vẫn gắn liền với các bước đi hướng tới bình thường hóa quan hệ của
chúng ta, còn Chu Ân Lai đóng vai trò là người thực thi chính.
Mỗi khi xem lại những gì Mao Trạch Đông
đã nói với mình, tôi đều nhận thấy tư duy cực kỳ kỷ luật và sắc bén của ông.
Ngay cả những câu nói đùa của ông cũng chứa đựng ý nghĩa sâu xa. Ông kể cho tôi
nghe một câu chuyện đùa, nhưng tôi không hiểu ý và lại đáp lại bằng một câu
chuyện khác của mình. Ông lặp lại câu chuyện đó, và tôi lại kể một chuyện khác.
Sau đó, đến lần thứ ba, ông lại lặp lại câu chuyện ấy để chắc chắn rằng tôi
không bỏ lỡ ý nghĩa của nó. Ông và Chu Ân Lai là những nhân vật gắn
bó mật thiết với tiến trình cải thiện quan hệ Mỹ - Trung. Điều này mang
lại những lợi ích nhất định. Chẳng hạn, Kosh đã được trả tự do vào ngày thứ
Ba, ngay sau khi chúng ta bày tỏ mong muốn ông ấy được thả vào ngày thứ Sáu trước
đó.
Những vấn đề nội bộ đang gây áp lực nặng nề lên giới
lãnh đạo Tầu cộng. Nỗi ám ảnh của họ về Liên Xô hiện nay
còn lớn hơn bất kỳ chuyến thăm nào trước đây của tôi. Mọi người nước ngoài đều
gặp khó khăn. Một đoàn múa của Algeria đã phải hủy chuyến đi do vướng mắc
thủ tục hành chính. Chỉ có một dàn nhạc giao hưởng Canada là thực hiện
trót lọt chuyến thăm. Nhóm Liên lạc (LO) của chúng ta bị hạn chế chỉ được
tiếp xúc với các quan chức. Một nhà ngoại giao đã mời một quan chức Tầu cộng
đi ăn trưa nhưng nhận được câu trả lời rằng vị quan chức này không thể
sắp xếp thời gian vào ngày hôm đó hay bất kỳ ngày nào khác.
1. Nguồn:
Bộ Ngoại giao, RG 59, Lot 89 D 436, Tài liệu của William H. Gleysteen, Hộp
8132, Tài liệu liên quan đến CHND Tầu cộng, tháng 1–3 năm 1974.
Không có dấu phân loại mật. Văn bản do George Vest, Trợ lý Đặc biệt của
Ngoại trưởng phụ trách Quan hệ Báo chí, soạn thảo.↩
2. Trong
tập ba của cuốn hồi ký, Kissinger cho biết cuộc trao đổi này diễn ra
trong một bữa tiệc tối tại Đại lễ đường Nhân dân. (Henry Kissinger,
*Years of Renewal*, tr. 160–161) Không tìm thấy ghi chép nào về cuộc trò chuyện
trong bữa tối đó. Về nỗ lực không thành công của nhân viên Hội đồng An ninh Quốc
gia (NSC) nhằm xác minh giai thoại này, xem thư của Solomon gửi Scowcroft,
ngày 6 tháng 3 năm 1974; Cơ quan Lưu trữ Quốc gia, Tài liệu Tổng thống
Nixon, Hồ sơ NSC, Hộp 528, Hồ sơ Quốc gia, Viễn Đông, Cộng hòa
Nhân dân Tầu cộng, Tập 9, từ ngày 1 tháng 1 năm 1974. Nho giáo cũng trở
thành chủ đề thảo luận trong một vài cuộc họp trang trọng hơn của Kissinger
vào tháng 11 năm 1973, mặc dù không có cuộc họp nào khớp với mô tả ở đây. Xem
Tài liệu 56 và 57.↩
3. Xem
chú thích 2, Tài liệu 66.↩
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/sources
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/terms
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/persons
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/comp1
Political Turmoil in the United States, June 1973–September
1974 (Documents 35–87)
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/ch2
1.
Document 68
Foreign Relations of the United
States, 1969–1976, Volume XVIII, China, 1973–1976
68. Notes on a Conversation Between
Secretary of State Kissinger and Time Incorporated Editors and Correspondents1
Washington, February
5, 1974.
[Omitted here are Kissinger’s statements about wiretaps, Secretary
Schlesinger, and the Soviet Union.]
China in dealing with us has been meticulous but there has been no
advance. When I was there in November I committed a fantastic faux pas when I
started talking about Confucious with the Chinese.2 [Page 458] They got excited and
it led to a ½ hr argument with Chou taking the lead, arguing it had nothing to
do with their world. We can now see this still is an issue.
There is enormous instability in China. Their Ambassador has been called
back for months, now. Still, Mao is associated with our steps toward
normalizing and Chou is the primary actor.
Whenever I read over what Mao has said to me I realize his enormous
intellectual discipline. Even his jokes have meaning. He told me a joke, I
missed the point and responded with one of my own. He repeated his joke, and I
told another. Then for the third time he repeated his joke, to make sure I did
not miss the meaning. He and Chou are integrally linked to an improved US-China
relationship. It has its benefits. Thus Kosh was released on the Tuesday after
we said on Friday that we expected him to be released.3
The internal problems of China are eating at the leadership. Their
obsession with the Soviets is greater now than in any of my previous visits.
All foreigners are in trouble. An Algerian dance group got into bureaucratic
difficulty and cancelled out. Only a Canadian symphony carried through their
visit. Our LO is confined to contacts with officials. A diplomat invited a
Chinese official to lunch and was told he was unavailable that day or any other
day.
1. Source: Department
of State, RG 59, Lot 89 D 436, Papers of William H. Gleysteen, Box 8132, PRC
Related Papers, Jan–Mar 1974. No classification marking. Drafted by George
Vest, Special Assistant to the Secretary of State for Press Relations.↩
2. In the third volume
of his memoirs, Kissinger says that this exchange occurred during a dinner in
the Great Hall of the People. (Henry Kissinger, Years of Renewal, pp. 160–161)
No record of the dinnertime conversation was found. For the unsuccessful effort
by the NSC staff to verify this anecdote, see Solomon to Scowcroft, March 6,
1974; National Archives, Nixon Presidential Materials, NSC Files, Box 528,
Country Files, Far East, People’s Republic of China, Vol. 9, Jan 1, 1974–.
Confucianism also became a topic of conversation during a couple of Kissinger’s
more formal November 1973 meetings, although neither fits the description here.
See Documents 56 and 57.↩
3. See footnote 2, Document 66.↩
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d68
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/pg_458
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d56
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d57
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d66fn2
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https://www.houseofnames.com/dpreview/BRENT/EN/Brent/family-crest-coat-of-arms.png
https://www.houseofnames.com/cdn/webp/i/prod/520x520/surnamecomplete_gold.webp
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Solomon, Richard H.,
member, National Security Council
staff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_H._Solomon
https://www.academyofdiplomacy.org/members-1/solomon/richard-h.
https://carnegiecouncil.org/people/richard-h-solomon
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https://www.chinafile.com/contributors/richard-h-solomon
https://findingaids.lib.umich.edu/catalog/umich-bhl-2008034
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/nomination-richard-h-solomon-be-assistant-secretary-state
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