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20251212 CDTL Biên Bản Ghi Nhớ Cuộc Họp Nội Các Washington 29 January 1975 D169

20251212 CDTL Biên Bản Ghi Nhớ Cuộc Họp Nội Các Washington 29 January 1975 D169


169. Memorandum of Cabinet Meeting1

Washington, January 29, 1975, 4:30 p.m.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/d169

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/pg_623

169. Memorandum of Cabinet Meeting1

Washington, January 29, 1975, 4:30 p.m.

President: First, I have two comments: Yesterday I sent up an Indochina supplemental. I want it clearly understood that this Administration [Page 623] is clearly, firmly, unequivocally behind that. We want it, we are going to fight for it and I want everyone behind it. I think it is vital and right, and I want no misunderstanding about that.

Second, we are in a delicate situation on energy. We are going to put it all in one bill to show we have a plan. And I want no talk about compromise.

Morton: Can we get a talking paper on Vietnam? It would help in talking to the issue.

President: There is a good article in the Christian Science Monitor by Goodwin about the consequences of a collapse in Southeast Asia. If they go down the drain, there will be a strong guilt feeling in the American public.

Morton: A question that was put to me was, would $300 million do any good?

Schlesinger: In Cambodia we are asking only what we requested before. Phnom Penh will fall this spring without this aid. In South Vietnam, the decline is slower. They are having to ration down to hand grenades.

Kissinger: We asked for $1.4 billion in authorization. They gave us $7 billion in appropriations. So we are asking for almost half of it again. To agonize about each $100 million is ridiculous, since if it is not enough, it might as well be nothing. The Administration’s Vietnam policy was ratified in 1972 by a 62 percent vote. Now the McGovern philosophy is being put in retroactively by those who lost in 1972.

The Vietnamese are below the level at which they can effectively operate. Then their casualties go up. When their casualties go up their morale goes down. Then they lose more, then our opponents say they said so.

President: At the time of the Paris Accords, many people said, “Just get the troops out and we will give aid.” Now they are backing off that. We have a commitment and we are doing it because it is right. We believe in it.

Vice President: Your negotiating authority and your ability to settle the Middle East will be seriously weakened if the President is not seen to be able to deliver on his commitments.

President: We can’t be aggressive in one area and isolationist in another. The Middle East is no more important than Southeast Asia. We have to have global policy and we are going to push this through.

While we are here I want to extend my thanks to Claude Brinegar, Bill Saxbe, and Roy Ash for the fine work they have done. I am deeply grateful.

[There was then a budget discussion led by Roy Ash, and some discussion of deferrals and excisions.]

Google Translated

169. Biên bản ghi nhớ cuộc họp Nội các

Washington, ngày 29 tháng 1 năm 1975, 4:30 chiều

Tổng Thống: Thứ nhất, tôi có hai ý kiến: Hôm qua tôi đã gửi lên một bản bổ sung về Đông Dương. Tôi muốn hiểu rõ rằng Chính quyền này [Trang 623] rõ ràng, kiên quyết, dứt khoát ủng hộ điều đó. Chúng tôi muốn điều đó, chúng tôi sẽ đấu tranh vì nó và tôi muốn tất cả mọi người ủng hộ nó. Tôi nghĩ điều đó rất quan trọng và đúng đắn, và tôi không muốn có bất kỳ sự hiểu lầm nào về điều đó.

Thứ hai, chúng ta đang ở trong một tình huống tế nhị về năng lượng. Chúng tôi sẽ đưa tất cả vào một dự luật để chứng minh rằng chúng tôi có một kế hoạch. Và tôi không muốn nói đến sự thỏa hiệp.

Morton: Chúng ta có thể có một bài báo thảo luận về Việt Nam không? Nó sẽ giúp ích cho việc thảo luận vấn đề này.

Tổng Thống: Có một bài viết hay trên tờ Christian Science Monitor của Goodwin về hậu quả của sự sụp đổ ở Đông Nam Á. Nếu những hậu quả này tan thành mây khói, công chúng Mỹ sẽ cảm thấy tội lỗi rất lớn.

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/sites/default/files/pdf_documents/library/document/0314/1552932.pdf

https://www.jfklibrary.org/asset-viewer/archives/bbfpp

Morton: Một câu hỏi được đặt ra cho tôi là, liệu 300 triệu đô la có ích gì không?

Schlesinger: Ở Campuchia, chúng tôi chỉ xin những gì chúng tôi đã yêu cầu trước đó. Phnom Penh sẽ sụp đổ vào mùa xuân này nếu không có khoản viện trợ này. Ở miền Nam Việt Nam, sự suy thoái diễn ra chậm hơn. Họ đang phải hạn chế đến mức chỉ còn lựu đạn cầm tay.

Kissinger: Chúng tôi đã yêu cầu 1,4 tỷ đô la tiền ủy quyền. Họ đã cấp cho chúng tôi 7 tỷ đô la tiền phân bổ. Vậy nên chúng tôi lại yêu cầu gần một nửa số tiền đó. Việc đau đầu về mỗi 100 triệu đô la là điều vô lý, vì nếu không đủ thì cũng chẳng khác gì không có gì. Chính sách Việt Nam của Chính quyền đã được phê chuẩn vào năm 1972 với 62% phiếu bầu. Giờ đây, triết lý của McGovern đang được những người thua cuộc năm 1972 áp dụng trở lại.

Người lính Việt Nam đang ở dưới mức mà họ có thể hoạt động hiệu quả. Khi đó, thương vong của họ tăng lên. Khi thương vong của họ tăng lên, tinh thần của họ lại giảm xuống. Sau đó, họ lại mất mát nhiều hơn, rồi đối thủ của chúng tôi lại nói rằng họ đã nói vậy.

Tổng thống: Vào thời điểm Hiệp định Paris, nhiều người đã nói, "Cứ rút quân đi và chúng tôi sẽ viện trợ." Giờ thì họ lại rút lui. Chúng tôi có một cam kết và chúng tôi đang làm điều đó vì đó là điều đúng đắn. Chúng tôi tin vào điều đó.

Phó Tổng thống: Thẩm quyền đàm phán và khả năng giải quyết vấn đề Trung Đông của ngài sẽ bị suy yếu nghiêm trọng nếu Tổng thống không thể thực hiện các cam kết của mình.

Tổng thống: Chúng ta không thể hung hăng ở khu vực này và cô lập ở khu vực khác. Trung Đông không quan trọng hơn Đông Nam Á. Chúng ta phải có chính sách toàn cầu và chúng ta sẽ thúc đẩy điều này.

Nhân dịp này, tôi muốn gửi lời cảm ơn đến Claude Brinegar, Bill Saxbe và Roy Ash vì những đóng góp tuyệt vời của họ. Tôi vô cùng biết ơn.

[Sau đó là một cuộc thảo luận về ngân sách do Roy Ash chủ trì, và một số cuộc thảo luận về việc hoãn và cắt giảm chi tiêu.]

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/d169

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/pg_623

Thân thế (các) nhân vật/

Ash, Roy L.,

Director of the Office of Management and Budget from February 2, 1973, until February 3, 1975

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Ash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget

https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/finding-aids/roy-ash-white-house-central-files-staff-member-and-office-files

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/organization_former_directors/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget

Ford Gerald R.,

Republican Representative from Michigan until October 13, 1973; House Minority Leader until October 13, 1973; Vice President of the United States from October 13, 1973, until August 8, 1974; President of the United States from August 8, 1974

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Minority_Leader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_House_Republican_Conference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_of_the_House_Republican_Conference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/gerald-r-ford/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

https://geraldrfordfoundation.org/gerald-r-ford-biography/

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/grf/timeline.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Gerald_Ford

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/research-guides/modern-biographical-files-ndl/modern-bios-f/ford-gerald.html

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/guides/findingaid/ford_vp_papers.asp

Henry A Kissinger

Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs until November 3, 1975; also Secretary of State from September 21, 1973

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/20/bilderberg-meeting-group-lisbon-kissinger

https://www.theguardian.com/world/bilderberg

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve13/summary

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip

https://china.usc.edu/sites/default/files/styles/article_node_featured/public/article/featured-image/kissinger-zhou-sm_0.jpg?itok=qDjPx2_m

https://china.usc.edu/catalog/documents/us-china

http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2001/nr01-47.html

https://china.usc.edu/talking-points-july-22-august-3-2011

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip#meetings

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip#nixon-announcement

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip#chinese-accept

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip#signals

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip#the_aim

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/23927/richard-m-nixon/asia-after-viet-nam

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d4

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d12

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d13

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d141

https://2001-2009.state.gov/documents/organization/100324.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger_and_the_Vietnam_War

Lesson in Vietnam from Kissinger to Nixon: “when we made it “our war” we would not let the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war”, we would not help them fight it.”

(We also had trouble with excesses here: when we made it “our war” we would not let the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war,” we would not help them fight it. Ironically, we prepared the South Vietnamese for main force warfare after 1954 (anticipating another Korean-type attack), and they faced a political war; they had prepared themselves for political warfare after 1973 only to be faced with a main force invasion 20 years after it had been expected.)

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/d280

Lesson of Vietnam May 12 1975 by Henry A. Kissinger

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/exhibits/vietnam/032400091-002.pdf

https://thebattleofkontum.com/extras/kissinger.html

“Richard M. Nixon and Kissinger on 3 August 1972,” Conversation 760-006, Presidential Recordings Digital Edition [Fatal Politics, ed. Ken Huges] (Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press, 2014-). URL:https://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/4006748 

https://player.vimeo.com/video/889937807?h=e44572c8f3&color=e57200&title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/nixon-kissinger-and-the-decent-interval

https://player.vimeo.com/video/889937807?h=e44572c8f3&color=e57200&title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

Discover the Truth at:

http://www.theblackvault.com

https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-cias-vietnam-document-cd-rom/

The secret life of Henry Kissinger minutes of a 1975 meeting with Lawrence Eagleburger

https://etan.org/news/kissinger/secret.htm

McGovern, George S.,

Democratic Senator from South Dakota; Democratic Party nominee for President, 1972

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ambassador_to_the_United_Nations_Agencies_for_Food_and_Agriculture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Select_Committee_on_Nutrition_and_Human_Needs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_for_Peace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-McGovern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern_1972_presidential_campaign

Schlesinger, James R.,

Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission until February 1973; Director of Central Intelligence from February 2 until July 2, 1973; Secretary of Defense from July 2, 1973, until November 19, 1975

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Schlesinger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Schlesinger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Energy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Defense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_Central_Intelligence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Atomic_Energy_Commission

https://history.defense.gov/Multimedia/Biographies/Article-View/Article/571289/james-r-schlesinger/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/james-r-schlesinger-cia-chief-and-cabinet-member-dies/2014/03/27/e4a8f01c-b5bb-11e3-8020-b2d790b3c9e1_story.html

https://apnews.com/obituaries-ecc8779791ee4ab7973cf58b7d355305

https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/history/us-history-biographies/james-rodney-schlesinger

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/27/295270441/james-schlesinger-who-headed-cia-defense-dies-at-85

https://www.csis.org/news/j-stephen-morrison-appointed-james-r-schlesinger-distinguished-professor-miller-center

Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam Paris 27 January 1973

https://www.cvce.eu/content/publication/2001/10/12/656ccc0d-31ef-42a6-a3e9-ce5ee7d4fc80/publishable_en.pdf

Paris Peace Accords

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords

Peace Negotiations and the Paris Agreement

https://edmoise.sites.clemson.edu/paris.html

Text of Declaration by Paris Conference on Vietnam

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/03/03/archives/text-of-declaration-by-paris-conference-on-vietnam.html

Vietnam War Bibliography Translation Series

https://edmoise.sites.clemson.edu/trans.html#fbis

1954 1955 Vietnam Operation Passage to Freedom

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nmusn/explore/photography/humanitarian/20th-century/1950-1959/1954-1955-vietnam-operation-passage-to-freedom.html

Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam Paris 27 January 1973

https://www.cvce.eu/content/publication/2001/10/12/656ccc0d-31ef-42a6-a3e9-ce5ee7d4fc80/publishable_en.pdf

https://www.cvce.eu/obj/agreement_on_ending_the_war_and_restoring_peace_in_vietnam_paris_27_january_1973-en-656ccc0d-31ef-42a6-a3e9-ce5ee7d4fc80.html

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https://saigonnhonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/141077565_10161036562590620_499246679089710973_n.jpg

https://saigonnhonews.com/thoi-su/thay-gi-tren-mang/dieu-chua-ke-sau-cuoc-hai-chien-hoang-sa-1974/

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https://www.cvce.eu/content/publication/2001/10/12/656ccc0d-31ef-42a6-a3e9-ce5ee7d4fc80/publishable_en.pdf

https://www.cvce.eu/obj/agreement_on_ending_the_war_and_restoring_peace_in_vietnam_paris_27_january_1973-en-656ccc0d-31ef-42a6-a3e9-ce5ee7d4fc80.html

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