20241228 CDTL LBJ TelEmbinV DepSta D337
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IX. Changes in the Government of
South Vietnam, August 11–September 5 (Documents 309–338)
1.
Document 337
Foreign Relations of
the United States, 1964–1968, Volume I, Vietnam, 1964
337. Telegram From
the Embassy in Vietnam to the Department of State1
Saigon, September 2, 1964—11 p.m.
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v01/d337
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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v01/d337#fnref:1.7.4.4.40.84.8.5
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v01/d333
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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v01/d334
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v01/d337#fnref:1.7.4.4.40.84.12.4
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Thân thế (các) nhân vật/
Major General, (after November 4, 1963,
Lieutenant General), ARVN, Military Adviser to President Diem until November 1,
1963; thereafter Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Revolutionary
Council; President of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Vietnam
after November 4, 1963
“South Vietnamese
Communists Sought Negotiated End
After the fall of
Hue, that was discarded as unnecessary. Then the second possibility was
considered, to insist on replacing Mr. Thieu with a personality of the “third force” who had been in
contact with the Provincial Revolutionary Government, such as Gen. Duong Van Minh, and negotiating a government with
him.
https://www.nytimes.com/1975/06/12/archives/south-vietnamese-communists-sought-negotiated-end.html”
Chou En lai Kissinger July 9 1971 MemCon D139
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d139
PM Chou: We don’t believe in the elections in
South Vietnam. It is a different situation, There are August elections and
October elections and you help Thieu. Have you discussed this
situation with Mr. Minh?
Dr. Kissinger: Yes, on this trip.
PM Chou: They want you to get rid of the
government.
Dr. Kissinger: They can’t ask us both to withdraw
and get rid of the government of Vietnam. To do both of these is impossible.
PM Chou: We have not exchanged views at this
point. We have always thought on this matter that we cannot interfere in these
affairs. If you withdraw and they want to continue the civil war, none of us
should interfere. The situation has been created over a long time.
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d139
July 12 1972 Discussion between Zhou Enlai and
Le Duc Tho
Zhou Enlai: Is Duong Van Minh
[2] acceptable?
Le Duc Tho: This is a complicated problem. Duong Van Minh is
not totally pro-American. Yet, the tripartite government is very
provisional.
Le Duc Tho: Duong Van Minh is exactly like this. But the important thing
is how to make the US accept the principle of the establishment of a tripartite
government. And further discussion on dividing positions and power should
be held after this.
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/discussion-between-zhou-enlai-and-le-duc-tho
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anatoly-Fyodorovich-Dobrynin
Discover the Truth at:
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-cias-vietnam-document-cd-rom/
Tài liệu Chu Ân Lai yêu cầu Hoa Kỳ loại bỏ Tổng Thống Nguyễn Văn Thiệu
và dùng Dương Văn Minh để lật đổ hai nền Đệ I và Đệ II VNCH.
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/discussion-between-zhou-enlai-and-le-duc-tho
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/89367/download
Letter From M Lyall Breckon to Miller
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1961-63v04/d338
Washington, December 2, 1963.
Dear Bob:
We were intrigued,
in your interesting memorandum of a conversation with [less than 1 line not
declassified], November 17,2 at [less than 1 line not declassified] statement that friends of his had seen papers indicating the late
Brother Nhu had reached
an advanced point in negotiations with the DRV and that terms had been
set under which Ho Chi Minh would be President of reunified Viet-Nam, and Nhu Vice President. Both for the historical record and
as an indication of how eager the DRV was for a
negotiated settlement, it would be [Page 652] interesting to have further
details or even copies of such papers. Do
you think it would be feasible to pursue the matter,
either with [less than 1 line not declassified] or through CAS channels? It
seems curious that the Generals have not made public
the proof they say they have (“Big” Minh to
the Ambassador November 30, Embtel 1093, for example3) of Nhu’s dealings with the North, as further
justification for the coup.
From various references
I gather [less than 1 line not declassified] interests have taken a strong
political turn. Please remember us to him and [less than 1 line not
declassified].
Incidentally, on the
subject of the ancien regime, you might be interested to know the New York
Times yesterday published two pictures of the bodies of Diem and Nhu. They were
radiophotos, however, and scarcely recognizable.
Claire joins me in
sending our best regards to you, Kaity, and the children. We hope you survived
the change of government without trauma. Our own chagrin at leaving two months
too early is still very much alive.4
Yours very truly,
M. Lyall Breckon
Thư của Breckon, M.
Lyall gửi cho Miller
Washington, ngày 2
tháng 12 năm 1963.
Bob thân mến:
Chúng tôi rất thích
thú, trong bản ghi nhớ thú vị của anh về cuộc trò chuyện với [ít hơn 1 dòng
không được giải mật], ngày 17 tháng 11 tại [ít hơn
1 dòng không được giải mật] tuyên bố rằng bạn bè của
ông ấy đã thấy các giấy tờ cho thấy ông Nhu đã đạt đến một điểm tiến triển trong các cuộc đàm
phán với DRV và các điều khoản đã được đặt ra theo đó Hồ Chí Minh
sẽ là Tổng Thống của Việt Nam thống nhất và Nhu là Phó Tổng Thống. Cả hai ghi vào hồ sơ như một dấu hiệu cho thấy DRV
rất muốn cuộc đàm phán được giải quyết ổn thỏa, sẽ rất thú vị [Trang 652] khi
có thêm thông tin chi tiết hoặc thậm chí có cả bản sao các giấy tờ như vậy. Anh
có nghĩ rằng có thể theo đuổi vấn đề này, thông qua [ít hơn 1 dòng không được
giải mật] hoặc thông qua các kênh CAS không? Có vẻ lạ là các Tướng lĩnh không công bố bằng chứng mà họ nói là họ có ("Big" Minh gửi
Đại sứ ngày 30 tháng 11, Embtel 1093, chẳng hạn) về các ứng phó của Nhu với miền Bắc, như một lý do biện minh thêm cho cuộc đảo chính.
Từ nhiều tài liệu tham khảo khác nhau, tôi thu
thập được [ít hơn 1 dòng không được giải mật] lợi ích đã có một bước ngoặt
chính trị mạnh mẽ. Xin hãy nhớ chúng tôi đến với ông ấy và [ít hơn 1 dòng không
được giải mật].
Một cách ngẫu nhiên, về chủ đề chế độ cũ, bạn
nên lưu tâm đến bản tin tờ New York Times ngày hôm qua đã công bố hai bức ảnh
chụp thi thể của Diệm và Nhu. Ảnh được chụp bằng máy ngoại tuyến X tuy nhiên
khó thể nhận ra.
Claire cùng tôi gửi lời chào trân trọng nhất đến
bạn, Kaity và các con. Chúng tôi hy vọng bạn đã vượt qua được sự thay đổi của
chính phủ mà không bị tổn thương. Nỗi buồn của chúng tôi khi phải rời đi sớm
hơn hai tháng vẫn còn rất lớn.
Trân trọng,
M. Lyall Breckon
20.10.24 SỰ THẬT CHƯA TỪNG ĐƯỢC TIẾT LỘ VỀ CÁI
CHẾT CỦA GIÁO CHỦ ĐỨC HUỲNH PHÚ SỔ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyP_90HMvuQ
ĐÀ NẴNG NĂM 1966 biến cố và hồi ký của tôi | Hồi
Ký Miền Nam VN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obw-UeN6DKE&t=4332s
Nguyen Khanh,
Major General, ARVN, Commander of I Corps; leader of coup
of January 30, 1964; Prime Minister of the Republic of Vietnam, February
4–October 30, 1964; thereafter Commander in Chief of Republic of Vietnam Armed
Forces; Chairman of the Armed Forces Council after December 18, 1964
Tam Chau,
Buddhist leader
Taylor, General Maxwell D.,
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_D._Taylor
https://www.historynet.com/gen-maxwell-taylors-cable/
https://armyhistory.org/general-maxwell-davenport-taylor/
https://www.jcs.mil/About/The-Joint-Staff/Chairman/General-Maxwell-Davenport-Taylor
Tran Thien Khiem,
Lieutenant General, ARVN, Vietnamese Minister
of National Defense, February 4–September 30, 1964
Westmoreland William C.
Major General (USAF)
https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/history/us-history-biographies/william-childs-westmoreland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lansdale
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/lansdale-edward-g
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/106443/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6768280/edward-geary-lansdale
Johnson, Lyndon B., (Lyndon Baines Johnson)
Vice President until November 22, 1963;
thereafter President
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Lyndon_B._Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lyndon-b-johnson-jewish/
https://www.biography.com/political-figures/lyndon-b-johnson
https://masonrytoday.com/index.php?new_month=1&new_day=22&new_year=2019
https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/gulf-of-tonkin-incident/
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1busNe.img?w=800&h=415&q=60&m=2&f=jpg
https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/maddox.jpg
https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/north-vietnam/
https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/lyndon-johnson/
https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/gulf-of-tonkin-resolution-1964/
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v03/d33
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Majority_Leader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Minority_Leader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Majority_Whip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives
https://www.lbjlibrary.org/life-and-legacy/the-man-himself/lbjs-ancestors
https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&n=johnson&p=lyndon+baines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Lyndon_B._Johnson
GULF OF TONKIN RECORDINGS
https://millercenter.org/gulf-tonkin-recordings
List of presidents of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
Eisenhower
Administration
https://millercenter.org/president/eisenhower/dwight-d-eisenhower-administration
Lesson in Vietnam from
Kissinger to Nixon: “when we made it “our war” we would not let
the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war”, we would not
help them fight it.”
(We also had trouble with excesses here: when we made it “our war” we
would not let the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war,”
we would not help them fight it. Ironically, we prepared the South Vietnamese for main force warfare
after 1954 (anticipating another Korean-type attack), and they faced a political
war; they had prepared themselves for political warfare after 1973 only to be
faced with a main force invasion 20 years after it had been expected.)
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/d280
Lesson of Vietnam May 12 1975 by Henry A.
Kissinger
https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/exhibits/vietnam/032400091-002.pdf
https://thebattleofkontum.com/extras/kissinger.html
List of Participants
in the Geneva Conference on Indochina
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v16/ch5subch4
The Geneva
Conference on Indochina May 8–July 21, 1954
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v16/comp2
Geneva Agreements 20-21 July 1954
https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/KH-LA-VN_540720_GenevaAgreements.pdf
March 10 1956 Election in South Vietnam
Election processes in South Vietnam
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79T00826A000400010040-7.pdf
Vietnam’s Un-held 1956 Reunification Elections
https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/020691c4-6762-44f0-903b-390c67a04188/content
PRETENSE TO DEMOCRACY: THE U.S. ROLE IN THE
SUBVERSION OF THE VIETNAMESE ELECTION OF 1956
https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2761&context=theses
Van Ban Hiep Dinh Paris 27011973
http://suthat-toiac.blogspot.com/2008/07/hip-nh-paris-2711973-vn-bn.html
Agreement on ending the war and restoring
peace in Viet-Nam.
Signed at Paris on 27 January 1973
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20935/volume-935-I-13295-English.pdf
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20935/v935.pdf
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NLF=National Liberation Front=Mặt Trận Dân
Tộc Giải Phóng,
PRG=Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam =
Chính phủ Cách mạng Lâm thời Việt Nam,
DRVN= Democratic Republic of North Vietnam=Việt
Nam Dân Chủ Cộng Hòa=cộng sản Bắc Việt.
DRV
(also DRVN), Democratic
Republic of (North) Vietnam
NLF, National Liberation Front,
Communist front organization in South Vietnam acting as political government of
the insurgency; later renamed Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam
NVA, North Vietnamese Army, term used
by the United States for the People’s Army of (North) Vietnam
PAVN, People’s Army of (North) Vietnam
PLAF, People’s Liberation Armed
Forces, Communist forces in South Vietnam, synonymous with Viet Cong
PRG, Provisional Revolutionary
Government of Vietnam, political wing of the South Vietnamese Communist
movement, replaced the National Liberation Front (NLF), but the terms are often
used interchangeably
Paris
Peace Talks, a
loosely defined term that, depending on context, could mean the secret meetings
between Henry Kissinger for the United States and Le Duc Tho for the Democratic
Republic of (North) Vietnam or the 174 meetings of the public talks held from
1968 to 1973 between the United States and the Republic of (South) Vietnam on
one side and the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam and the Provisional
Revolutionary Government of Vietnam on the other; the latter were also known as
Plenary or Avénue Kléber talks
Rue Darthé, 11 Rue Darthé, the address of
one of the residences of the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam in the
Paris suburb of Choisy-le-Roi used as a venue for the Kissinger-Le Duc Tho
negotiations.
Avenue Kléber (also Ave. Kléber or Kléber), address of the International
Conference Center at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, the site of the (plenary)
Paris Peace Talks; see also Paris Peace Talks
SALT, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks
Seven
Points, peace
plan presented by Kissinger on May 31, 1971, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho;
peace plan presented by the NLF Delegation in July 1971 at the (plenary) Paris
Peace Talks
Nine Points, peace plan presented by Xuan
Thuy on June 26, 1971
Ten
Points, peace
plan presented by NLF delegate Madame Binh on May 8, 1969, at the (plenary)
Paris Peace Talks; peace plan presented by Le Duc Tho on August 1, 1972, at his
meeting with Kissinger; peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 14, 1972,
at his meeting with Le Duc Tho
Two-Point
Elaboration, elaboration
of the Ten Point peace plan presented by the DRV Delegation on February 2,
1972, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks
Twelve
Points, peace
plan presented by Kissinger on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho
strategic
hamlets, a
South Vietnamese Government program to counter Viet Cong control in the
countryside. The government relocated farmers into fortified hamlets to provide
defense, economic aid, and political assistance to residents. The hope was that
protection from Viet Cong raids and taxation would bind the rural populace to
the government and gain their loyalty. The program started in 1962, but was
fatally undermined by over expansion and poor execution. By 1964 it had clearly
failed.
GVN, Government of (South) Vietnam
RVN, Republic of (South) Vietnam
RVNAF, Republic of (South) Vietnam
Armed Forces
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/terms
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Gulf of Tonkin
Senate Stories Chairman
J William Fulbright and the 1964 Tonkin Gulf Resolution
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