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20230806 Cong Dong Tham Luan Chuyen Di Dem P19

20230806 Cong Dong Tham Luan Chuyen Di Dem P19

 

Ở điểm khởi đầu buổi hợp, Lê Đức Thọ đã tố cáo láo với Kissinger rằng chính quyền ông Thiệu đã giết cán bộ cộng sản trong tù, tuy nhiên Thọ không đưa ra được bằng chứng nào.

… “Le Duc Tho: Before we begin our talks I would like to raise one question. I have just received the information that at present the Nguyen Van Thieu administration is killing our military and political cadres in jail. I would like to request you to use your influence so that the Nguyen Van Thieu administration stop these cruel actions. Because these actions are detrimental to your side later. I would like to raise this question.” …

Dưới đây là sự đối đáp giửa Kissinger và Lê Đức Thọ:

… “Dr. Kissinger: Are you finished? Mr. Special Adviser, I am not familiar with these charges. If prisoners are being killed, it is totally against United States policy. I will look into it as soon as I return to Washington. If it is taking place, which I do not know, we will use all our influence to stop it. You and we are now making a serious effort to end the war, and we will oppose anything that is against the spirit of what we are trying to do. But I must look into it.

Le Duc Tho: From our experience we know that when we are approaching a settlement our enemies try always to kill our cadres and leaders. Therefore I would like to draw your attention on this question.

Dr. Kissinger: I agree. One final point with respect to the first issue the Special Adviser raised with me, about the killing of cadres. I have assured him that we will use our best efforts to insure that this will not be done. But we have captured some instructions that were given to some of your people, which say that [reading from TDCS 314/06832–72],” all hamlet tyrants, particularly hamlet chiefs, pacification cadres, people’s self-defense forces team leaders, phung-hoang personnel”—I don’t know what they are—“and policemen should be eliminated.”

Le Duc Tho: I am not aware of such instructions. But I would like to tell you here that the war is now going on; what happens on the battlefield we can’t control. But here I would like to raise the question about military and civilian prisoners in jail, and they should not be terrorized or killed.

Dr. Kissinger: I have assured the Special Adviser that we will use all our influence to prevent the killing of prisoners, and I think he should use all his influence that the same happens on your side. We don’t make it conditional; we will use our influence anyway.”

Đoạn đối đáp trên của Kissinger đưa ra chứng cứ từ tài liệu của cộng sản [reading from TDCS 314/06832–72] cho thấy lệnh của cộng sản từ bộ chính trị (TDCS 314/06832–72) tàn sát: “tất cả các ấp chiến lược củ, đặc biệt là trưởng ấp, cán bộ bình định, đội trưởng đội nhân dân tự vệ, nhân viên Phụng-Hoàng và cảnh sát nên bị loại bỏ.”

Điều nầy nói lên hiệu quả của chính sách các ấp chiến lược củ của Đệ-Nhất Việt-Nam Cộng-Hòa do Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm xây dựng đã ngăn chận được bước tiến xâm lăng của cộng sản giặc Hồ, nhưng lại bị Hoa Kỳ âm thầm ra lệnh phá bỏ.  

Qua chuyến đi đêm nầy dẩn đến việc Kissinger dùng tướng Haig làm áp lực với tổng thống Thiệu củng như hứa hẹn bằng sự cam kết ủng hộ ông Thiệu để bản ký kết hòa bình có thể thực hiện được, nhưng sau đó Hoa Kỳ sẽ cắt đứt củng như xóa bỏ những cam kết bằng vụ án Watergate, xù, xóa sổ.

Miền Nam sụp đổ.

Lưu ý! Đây là lời phát biểu của Kissinger đại diện cho Hoa Kỳ.

Bao gồm cả Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa.

“The United States acknowledges the provisions of the Final Declaration of the Geneva Conference of 1954 in regard to respect for the sovereignty, the independence, the unity and the territorial integrity of the Indochinese states.”

Như thế nào là: “general ceasefire” =/= “standstill ceasefire”?

Kissinger: general ceasefire.”

Lê Đức Thọ: “standstill ceasefire

Standstill ceasefire của Lê Đức Thọ là vẩn giử quân đội của cộng sản giặc Hồ tại miền Nam Việt-Nam.

General ceasefire của Kissinger là: (This is our definition of “general ceasefire.” And we have added another phrase about removal of mines; that we will remove the mines laid in the ports, harbors and waterways, etc.)

“The forces of the parties will remain in place pending implementation of the withdrawal provisions and principles of the overall agreement.

“Lực lượng của các bên sẽ giữ nguyên vị trí trong khi chờ thực hiện các điều khoản và nguyên tắc rút quân về sự thỏa thuận của hai bên.

“Pending implementation of the political provisions of the overall agreement, neither side will seek to extend its areas of control.

“Trong khi chờ thực hiện các điều khoản chính trị sự thỏa thuận của đôi bên, không bên nào sẽ tìm cách mở rộng các khu vực kiểm soát của mình.

“The civilian population will continue to work and reside in the areas where they are located until the parties agree on the modalities for implementation of the principle of freedom of residence and movement.”

“Dân thường sẽ tiếp tục làm việc và cư trú tại các khu vực họ sinh sống cho đến khi các bên đồng ý về các phương thức thực hiện nguyên tắc tự do cư trú và đi lại.”

 

Cuộc Trốn Thoát Từ Nhà Tù Cộng Sản: Câu Chuyện của Ông Phạm Quang Trình | Lịch Sử Qua Chuyện Kể |VHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PQnX7s0jUE

Nuôi Con Sơ Sinh Trong Trại Tù “Cải Tạo” - Câu Chuyện của Bà Lê Thị Xuân | Lịch Sử Qua Chuyện Kể

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdl-b3n-MHE

ĐỖ MƯỜI - NGƯỜI GÂY ĐAU THƯƠNG, MẤT MÁT CHO NGƯỜI DÂN MIỀN NAM CẢ VẬT CHẤT LẪN TINH THẦN SAU 1975

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwYMHl6HXCo

Chết Tập Thể Trong Trại Tù Cải Tạo (bài của cựu tù nhân CT Chế Văn Thức) **KHÔNG CẦM ĐƯỢC NƯỚC MẮT*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiuwRuVCNJY

Câu Chuyện Của Một Người Tù "Cải Tạo" (Tác giả: Vĩnh Khanh) @tieuthuyethay99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QJq5uXwj0w

Cựu Bác Sĩ VNCH Nguyễn Công Trứ Sống Sót Trong Trại Tù Cộng Sản - Lịch Sử Qua Chuyện Kể | VHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9hoRttcBdM

Phát hiện chấn động: Văn kiện Đảng xác nhận Nguyễn Ái Quốc qua đời năm 1932, vậy Hồ Chí Minh là ai?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Bxs3kfh9w

30 tháng 4: Chuyện những sĩ quan VNCH ‘tuẫn tiết’ khi Sài Gòn thất thủ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYSIis4opQ

Cong San Viet Nam Offensive Instruction

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/print/2059849

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/LOC-HAK-26-6-3-3.pdf

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NLF=National Liberation Front=Mặt Trận Dân Tộc Giải Phóng,

PRG=Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam = Chính phủ Cách mạng Lâm thời Việt Nam,

DRVN= Democratic Republic of North Vietnam=Việt Nam Dân Chủ Cộng Hòa=cộng sản Bắc Việt.

DRV (also DRVN), Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam

NLF, National Liberation Front, Communist front organization in South Vietnam acting as political government of the insurgency; later renamed Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam

NVA, North Vietnamese Army, term used by the United States for the People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PAVN, People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PLAF, People’s Liberation Armed Forces, Communist forces in South Vietnam, synonymous with Viet Cong

PRG, Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam, political wing of the South Vietnamese Communist movement, replaced the National Liberation Front (NLF), but the terms are often used interchangeably

Paris Peace Talks, a loosely defined term that, depending on context, could mean the secret meetings between Henry Kissinger for the United States and Le Duc Tho for the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam or the 174 meetings of the public talks held from 1968 to 1973 between the United States and the Republic of (South) Vietnam on one side and the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam on the other; the latter were also known as Plenary or Avénue Kléber talks

Rue Darthé, 11 Rue Darthé, the address of one of the residences of the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam in the Paris suburb of Choisy-le-Roi used as a venue for the Kissinger-Le Duc Tho negotiations.

Avenue Kléber (also Ave. Kléber or Kléber), address of the International Conference Center at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, the site of the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; see also Paris Peace Talks

SALT, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks

Seven Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on May 31, 1971, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho; peace plan presented by the NLF Delegation in July 1971 at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Nine Points, peace plan presented by Xuan Thuy on June 26, 1971

Ten Points, peace plan presented by NLF delegate Madame Binh on May 8, 1969, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; peace plan presented by Le Duc Tho on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Kissinger; peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 14, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

Two-Point Elaboration, elaboration of the Ten Point peace plan presented by the DRV Delegation on February 2, 1972, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Twelve Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

strategic hamlets, a South Vietnamese Government program to counter Viet Cong control in the countryside. The government relocated farmers into fortified hamlets to provide defense, economic aid, and political assistance to residents. The hope was that protection from Viet Cong raids and taxation would bind the rural populace to the government and gain their loyalty. The program started in 1962, but was fatally undermined by over expansion and poor execution. By 1964 it had clearly failed.

GVN, Government of (South) Vietnam

RVN, Republic of (South) Vietnam

RVNAF, Republic of (South) Vietnam Armed Forces

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/terms

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20230717 Sept 27 72 Hak Tho Negotiations Memorandum 20

20. Memorandum of Conversation

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/ch4 

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/d20  

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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v08/d267 

  

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