Sunday, July 23, 2023

20230724 Cong Dong Tham Luan Chuyen Di Dem P6

20230724 Cong Dong Tham Luan Chuyen Di Dem P6

 

Vấn đề hội luận trong chuyến đi đêm nầy:

Cộng sản giặc Hồ chỉ đưa ra điều kiện buộc Hoa Kỳ phải rút quân khỏi miền Nam Việt-Nam trong vòng 9 tháng, buộc Hoa Kỳ phải phủ nhận và chối bỏ nội các hợp hiến, hợp pháp của chính phủ “Thiệu-Kỳ-Khiêm”, thế nhưng cộng sản giặc Hồ chẳng buồn động đến việc rút quân cộng sản ra khỏi miền Nam cùng hai chính phủ ma do chúng lập nên tại miền Nam đó là:

NLF=National Liberation Front=Mặt Trận Dân Tộc Giải Phóng, PRG=Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam = Chính phủ Cách mạng Lâm thời Việt Nam,

Kissinger đã làm lơ trong dữ kiện đòi hỏi nầy.

Điều kiện cộng sản giặc Hồ đòi hỏi Hoa Kỳ phải rút quân với số lượng lớn trong 6 tháng đầu nhằm mục đích triệt tiêu khả năng yểm trợ quân lực Việt-Nam Cộng-Hòa của Hoa Kỳ tại miền Nam.

Cộng sản giặc Hồ chỉ tuyên bố sẽ không tấn công những lực lượng Hoa Kỳ đang rút đi nhưng không nói đến việc sẽ ngưng tấn công quân lực Việt-Nam Cộng-Hòa tại miền Nam, cho dù hai đạo quân ấy là hai đạo quân ma do cộng sản giặc Hồ dựng nên.

Đây là thủ đoạn gian trá, xảo quyệt của cộng sản giặc Hồ.

Kissinger củng làm lơ cho thủ đoạn của cộng sản giặc Hồ trong vấn đề nầy mà không đề cập đến việc rút quân của cộng sản giặc Hồ ra khỏi miền Nam vì Xuân Thủy đã tách cộng sản nằm vùng miền Nam của Nguyễn Thị Bình ra khỏi quân đội Bắc Việt.  

Trong khi cộng sản giặc Hồ xem miền Nam là thù địch thì chúng lại xem Trung Cộng là anh em.

… “Mr. Kissinger: I notice that the Minister did not mention China, which is closer to Vietnam than Australia or Indonesia. Was that an inadvertence?

Xuan Thuy: No, it was not by inadvertence. Our foreign policy is as follows: We have a foreign policy toward Socialist countries, and we consider that other Socialist countries and Vietnam, which is also a Socialist country, are all brother nations following the same Socialist path.

Besides Socialist countries, countries with other political systems than ours, we follow the policy of peaceful coexistence, in accordance with the five principles.

This is my clear understanding. It is not by inadvertence that I omitted China.” …

Đây là luận điệu của cộng sản giặc Hồ hay của Trung-cộng?

… “Xuan Thuy: I will make myself clear. North Vietnam, i. e., the DRV, is now a Socialist country. We follow the same path of Socialism as other Socialist countries. We follow the same path of Socialism, but the DRV has its own independent policy. We do not compel any other country to follow the same path as ours. We respect other countries. Even for South Vietnam, that is part of Vietnam and that will be ultimately reunified into one Vietnam, but taking into consideration the real situation there, we approved the position of the PRG that South Vietnam should be neutral.” …

Dưới đây là hậu quả của những cuộc xuống đường, những cuộc biểu tình tại Sài-gòn dưới thể chế Đệ-Nhị Việt-Nam Cộng-Hòa, những ông nhà báo, những tên sinh viên ăn cơm quốc gia thờ ma cộng sản, những tăng ni, cùng những người công giáo miền Nam.

Chính họ là những người đã góp bàn tay tàn phá miền Nam. 

 Xuan Thuy: We can accept this line. The U.S. can accept this line. The overwhelming majority of the South Vietnamese people can accept this line. The whole world can accept peace, independence, and neutrality in South Vietnam. Because it is impartial and not inclined to either side.

If the U.S. maintains Thieu-Ky-Khiem, it is a regime that the whole world knows to be dictatorial and fascist. I don’t know whether you listen to public opinion in South Vietnam, to many senators and people in the lower house in South Vietnam, and people in the street. There is a strong movement opposing Thieu-Ky-Khiem for their fascist and dictatorial character.

You are probably too busy to pay attention to public opinion of South Vietnam.

Last week, a number of Christians, Catholic people of South Vietnam, came to Paris and held a press conference. They demanded also the change of Thieu-Ky-Khiem. Without that, the people of South Vietnam will be choked. They are also people coming from South Vietnam.

Therefore, I think that after the formation in Saigon of a government without Thieu-Ky-Khiem, which favors peace, independence, and neutrality, and which talks with the PRG, it will be easy to come to an agreement.” …

Xuan Thuy:

… “Thus I propose a detailed schedule for the withdrawal of U.S. troops in nine months:

First Month

60,000

Second Month

60,000

Third Month

60,000

Fourth Month

60,000

Fifth Month

60,000

Sixth Month

60,000

The remaining troops will be withdrawn in the seventh, eighth, and ninth months.

That is to say, 60,000 troops will be withdrawn for each of the first six months. The remaining troops will be withdrawn during the last three months.” If the United States agrees to the time schedule and the principles I have mentioned for troop withdrawal, two problems arise:

First, the People’s Liberation Armed Forces of South Vietnam will refrain -ngưng- from attacking U.S. military bases and units that are withdrawing or are preparing to withdraw.

On the other hand, the U.S. Government shall refrain from having U.S. troops and those of other countries in the U.S. camp, including infantry, navy, artillery and air forces, launch attacks against the liberation troops, or other hostile acts against them.

If the U.S. Government accepts this proposal, then the two parties will enter into immediate discussion of the plan for total withdrawal [Page 118] of U.S. troops and other foreign parties’ troops and immediate discussion for plans for the security of the troops being withdrawn.

We would like to clearly state that if the U.S. Government accepts this proposal on the time schedule for U.S. withdrawal, then discussions will be held on the release of prisoners, including U.S. pilots captured in North Vietnam.”

Những dữ kiện, những triệu chứng về việc rút quân của Hoa Kỳ đã khiến cho miền Nam đi đến quyết định cho cuộc hành quân Lam Sơn 719.

Có lẻ vì sự quyết định đơn phương nầy của miền Nam đã khiến cho Hoa Kỳ âm thầm phát động một chiến dịch tiết lộ cuộc hành quân Lam Sơn 719 trước ngày cuộc hành quân tiến hành trước thế giới qua hệ thống truyền thông và báo chí?

Trước việc đã rồi, Hoa Kỳ ra quyết định là không có cố vấn Hoa Kỳ tham gia trong cuộc hành quân hạ Lào nầy?

Hay vì sự hứa hẹn giửa Kissinger và cộng sản giặc Hồ trong việc bàn thảo rút quân?

Đây có phải là lý do phi cơ của Hoa Kỳ với dấu hiệu đặc biệt đã không bị cộng sản giặc Hồ tấn công? Mà chỉ có phi cơ của quân lực Việt-Nam Cộng-Hòa bị tấn công?   

Operation Lam Son 719 – Inside the 1971 Battle That Decimated America’s Helicopter Force in Vietnam

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/09/27/operation-lam-son-719-inside-the-1971-battle-that-decimated-americas-helicopter-force-in-vietnam/

Lam Sơn 719 08/02/1971

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-iba-3&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-3&hspart=iba&p=hanh+quan+lam+son+719+ha+lao+1971&type=teff_10019_FFW_ZZ#id=2&vid=e2acd627c0b64a6af05714ed46d76b25&action=click

https://nhaydu.com/index_83hg_files/left_files/T-Chien/LamSon719_1971.pdf

http://www.vietnamvanhien.org/HanhQuanLamSon719.pdf

http://bietdongquan.org/index.html

https://nhaydu.com/index_83hg_files/left_files/T-Chien.htm

SƯ ĐOÀN NHẢY DÙ VIỆT NAM và CUỘC HÀNH QUÂN LAM SƠN 719

http://acdieu.com/Stuff/Dien_dan/Lam_Son_719/Lam_Son_719.html

HÀNH QUÂN LAM SƠN 719 – ĐƯỜNG 9 NAM LÀO NGÀY 8 THÁNG 2 NĂM 1971

https://dongsongcu.wordpress.com/2021/07/02/hanh-quan-lam-son-719-duong-9-nam-lao-ngay-8-thang-2-nam-1971/

Co Gang De Khong Bi Tran Ngap

https://nhaydu.com/index_83hg_files/left_files/T-Chien/Co-gang-khong-de-bi-tran-ngap.htm

Chiến dịch bình Tây (hành quân qua Campuchia 1970)

https://nhaydu.com/index_83hg_files/left_files/T-Chien/ChienDichBinh%20Tay-HanhQuanKampuchea.pdf

 

NLF=National Liberation Front=Mặt Trận Dân Tộc Giải Phóng,

PRG=Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam = Chính phủ Cách mạng Lâm thời Việt Nam,

DRVN= Democratic Republic of North Vietnam=Việt Nam Dân Chủ Cộng Hòa=cộng sản Bắc Việt.

DRV (also DRVN), Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam

NLF, National Liberation Front, Communist front organization in South Vietnam acting as political government of the insurgency; later renamed Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam

NVA, North Vietnamese Army, term used by the United States for the People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PAVN, People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PLAF, People’s Liberation Armed Forces, Communist forces in South Vietnam, synonymous with Viet Cong

PRG, Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam, political wing of the South Vietnamese Communist movement, replaced the National Liberation Front (NLF), but the terms are often used interchangeably

Paris Peace Talks, a loosely defined term that, depending on context, could mean the secret meetings between Henry Kissinger for the United States and Le Duc Tho for the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam or the 174 meetings of the public talks held from 1968 to 1973 between the United States and the Republic of (South) Vietnam on one side and the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam on the other; the latter were also known as Plenary or Avénue Kléber talks

Rue Darthé, 11 Rue Darthé, the address of one of the residences of the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam in the Paris suburb of Choisy-le-Roi used as a venue for the Kissinger-Le Duc Tho negotiations.

Avenue Kléber (also Ave. Kléber or Kléber), address of the International Conference Center at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, the site of the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; see also Paris Peace Talks

SALT, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks

Seven Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on May 31, 1971, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho; peace plan presented by the NLF Delegation in July 1971 at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Nine Points, peace plan presented by Xuan Thuy on June 26, 1971

Ten Points, peace plan presented by NLF delegate Madame Binh on May 8, 1969, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; peace plan presented by Le Duc Tho on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Kissinger; peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 14, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

Two-Point Elaboration, elaboration of the Ten Point peace plan presented by the DRV Delegation on February 2, 1972, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Twelve Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

strategic hamlets, a South Vietnamese Government program to counter Viet Cong control in the countryside. The government relocated farmers into fortified hamlets to provide defense, economic aid, and political assistance to residents. The hope was that protection from Viet Cong raids and taxation would bind the rural populace to the government and gain their loyalty. The program started in 1962, but was fatally undermined by over expansion and poor execution. By 1964 it had clearly failed.

GVN, Government of (South) Vietnam

RVN, Republic of (South) Vietnam

RVNAF, Republic of (South) Vietnam Armed Forces

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/terms

 

20230716 Sept 27 70 Hak Tho Negotiations Memorandum 7

7. Memorandum of Conversation

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/ch1

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/d7

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_116

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_117

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_118

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_119

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_120

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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_122

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_123

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_124

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_125

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_126

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_127

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_128

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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_130

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_131

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_132

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_133

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_134

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/pg_135

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v07/d45

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v42/d7#fnref:1.7.4.4.8.27.8.2  



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