Lãnh Thổ Lãnh Hải Việt-Nam: 20240722 CDTL JFK Era MemCon D188

Major General, (after November 4, 1963, Lieutenant General), ARVN, Military Adviser to President Diem until November 1, 1963; thereafter Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Revolutionary Council; President of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Vietnam after November 4, 1963

“South Vietnamese Communists Sought Negotiated End

After the fall of Hue, that was discarded as unnecessary. Then the second possibility was considered, to insist on replacing Mr. Thieu with a personality of the “third force” who had been in contact with the Provincial Revolutionary Government, such as Gen. Duong Van Minh, and negotiating a government with him.

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/06/12/archives/south-vietnamese-communists-sought-negotiated-end.html”

Chou En lai Kissinger July 9 1971 MemCon D139

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d139

PM Chou: We don’t believe in the elections in South Vietnam. It is a different situation, There are August elections and October elections and you help Thieu. Have you discussed this situation with Mr. Minh?

Dr. Kissinger: Yes, on this trip.

PM Chou: They want you to get rid of the government.

Dr. Kissinger: They can’t ask us both to withdraw and get rid of the government of Vietnam. To do both of these is impossible.

PM Chou: We have not exchanged views at this point. We have always thought on this matter that we cannot interfere in these affairs. If you withdraw and they want to continue the civil war, none of us should interfere. The situation has been created over a long time.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v17/d139

July 12 1972 Discussion between Zhou Enlai and Le Duc Tho

Zhou Enlai: Is Duong Van Minh ^[2] acceptable?

Le Duc Tho: This is a complicated problem. Duong Van Minh is not totally pro-American. Yet, the tripartite government is very provisional.

Le Duc Tho: Duong Van Minh is exactly like this. But the important thing is how to make the US accept the principle of the establishment of a tripartite government. And further discussion on dividing positions and power should be held after this.

https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/discussion-between-zhou-enlai-and-le-duc-tho

Discover the Truth at:

http://www.theblackvault.com

https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/the-cias-vietnam-document-cd-rom/

Johnson, Lyndon B., (Lyndon Baines Johnson)

Vice President until November 22, 1963; thereafter President

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Lyndon_B._Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lyndon-b-johnson-jewish/

https://www.biography.com/political-figures/lyndon-b-johnson

https://masonrytoday.com/index.php?new_month=1&new_day=22&new_year=2019

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/t/tonkin-gulf-crisis/tonkin-gulf-incidents-of-2-4-aug-1964/uss-maddox-report-of-tonkin-gulf-action-of-4-aug-1964.html

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/gulf-of-tonkin-incident/

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1busNe.img?w=800&h=415&q=60&m=2&f=jpg

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/maddox.jpg

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/north-vietnam/

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/lyndon-johnson/

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/johnsontonkinaddress-e1673228089140.jpg

https://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/gulf-of-tonkin-resolution-1964/

https://socratic.org/questions/what-happened-to-the-uss-maddox-in-the-gulf-of-tonkin#:~:text=Supposedly%2C%20the%20USS%20Maddox%20was%20attacked%2C%20although%20realistically%2C,over%20to%20Vietnam%20to%20start%20the%20Vietnam%20war.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v03/d33

https://history.state.gov/search?q=johnson+administration+in+vietnam&within=entire-site&sort-by=relevance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Majority_Leader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Minority_Leader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Majority_Whip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

https://www.lbjlibrary.org/life-and-legacy/the-man-himself/lbjs-ancestors

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&n=johnson&p=lyndon+baines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Lyndon_B._Johnson

GULF OF TONKIN RECORDINGS

https://millercenter.org/gulf-tonkin-recordings

https://www.nsa.gov/Helpful-Links/NSA-FOIA/Declassification-Transparency-Initiatives/Historical-Releases/Gulf-of-Tonkin/

List of presidents of the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

Eisenhower Administration

https://millercenter.org/president/eisenhower/dwight-d-eisenhower-administration

Lesson in Vietnam from Kissinger to Nixon:… “when we made it “our war” we would not let the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war”, we would not help them fight it.”

(We also had trouble with excesses here: when we made it “our war” we would not let the South Vietnamese fight it; when it again became “their war,” we would not help them fight it. Ironically, we prepared the South Vietnamese for main force warfare after 1954 (anticipating another Korean-type attack), and they faced a political war; they had prepared themselves for political warfare after 1973 only to be faced with a main force invasion 20 years after it had been expected.)

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v10/d280

Lesson of Vietnam May 12 1975 by Henry A. Kissinger

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/exhibits/vietnam/032400091-002.pdf

https://thebattleofkontum.com/extras/kissinger.html

List of Participants in the Geneva Conference on Indochina

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v16/ch5subch4

The Geneva Conference on Indochina May 8–July 21, 1954

[Page [396]] [Page 397]

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v16/comp2

Geneva Agreements 20-21 July 1954

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/KH-LA-VN_540720_GenevaAgreements.pdf

March 10 1956 Election in South Vietnam

Election processes in South Vietnam

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79T00826A000400010040-7.pdf

Vietnam’s Un-held 1956 Reunification Elections

https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/020691c4-6762-44f0-903b-390c67a04188/content

PRETENSE TO DEMOCRACY: THE U.S. ROLE IN THE SUBVERSION OF THE VIETNAMESE ELECTION OF 1956

https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2761&context=theses

Van Ban Hiep Dinh Paris 27011973

http://suthat-toiac.blogspot.com/2008/07/hip-nh-paris-2711973-vn-bn.html

Agreement on ending the war and restoring peace in Viet-Nam.

Signed at Paris on 27 January 1973

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20935/volume-935-I-13295-English.pdf

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20935/v935.pdf

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NLF=National Liberation Front=Mặt Trận Dân Tộc Giải Phóng,

PRG=Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam = Chính phủ Cách mạng Lâm thời Việt Nam,

DRVN= Democratic Republic of North Vietnam=Việt Nam Dân Chủ Cộng Hòa=cộng sản Bắc Việt.

DRV (also DRVN), Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam

NLF, National Liberation Front, Communist front organization in South Vietnam acting as political government of the insurgency; later renamed Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam

NVA, North Vietnamese Army, term used by the United States for the People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PAVN, People’s Army of (North) Vietnam

PLAF, People’s Liberation Armed Forces, Communist forces in South Vietnam, synonymous with Viet Cong

PRG, Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam, political wing of the South Vietnamese Communist movement, replaced the National Liberation Front (NLF), but the terms are often used interchangeably

Paris Peace Talks, a loosely defined term that, depending on context, could mean the secret meetings between Henry Kissinger for the United States and Le Duc Tho for the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam or the 174 meetings of the public talks held from 1968 to 1973 between the United States and the Republic of (South) Vietnam on one side and the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam on the other; the latter were also known as Plenary or Avénue Kléber talks

Rue Darthé, 11 Rue Darthé, the address of one of the residences of the Democratic Republic of (North) Vietnam in the Paris suburb of Choisy-le-Roi used as a venue for the Kissinger-Le Duc Tho negotiations.

Avenue Kléber (also Ave. Kléber or Kléber), address of the International Conference Center at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, the site of the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; see also Paris Peace Talks

SALT, Strategic Arms Limitation Talks

Seven Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on May 31, 1971, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho; peace plan presented by the NLF Delegation in July 1971 at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Nine Points, peace plan presented by Xuan Thuy on June 26, 1971

Ten Points, peace plan presented by NLF delegate Madame Binh on May 8, 1969, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks; peace plan presented by Le Duc Tho on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Kissinger; peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 14, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

Two-Point Elaboration, elaboration of the Ten Point peace plan presented by the DRV Delegation on February 2, 1972, at the (plenary) Paris Peace Talks

Twelve Points, peace plan presented by Kissinger on August 1, 1972, at his meeting with Le Duc Tho

strategic hamlets, a South Vietnamese Government program to counter Viet Cong control in the countryside. The government relocated farmers into fortified hamlets to provide defense, economic aid, and political assistance to residents. The hope was that protection from Viet Cong raids and taxation would bind the rural populace to the government and gain their loyalty. The program started in 1962, but was fatally undermined by over expansion and poor execution. By 1964 it had clearly failed.

GVN, Government of (South) Vietnam

RVN, Republic of (South) Vietnam

RVNAF, Republic of (South) Vietnam Armed Forces

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus19676v42/terms

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